companies have to control healthcare costs. >> you do not do that by punishing people and taking money away from their tables. $600 a month is a lot of money. fifty dollars is a gas tank for some people. this is not the way to do it. cheryl: they are dealing with higher costs. the alternative is to not provide health insurance to employees at all. that is where all of this is going. >> i do not have problems with policies limiting the number of procedures that you get. i don't have problems with limiting the number of elective things like plastic surgery. i have no problem with employers harassing people to lose weight and stop smoking. cheryl: diabetes, heart conditions, that is expensive. >> it will change nothing. people will still have their problems. people will still be overweight. it will not change anything. what happened from two years from now. now i am the owner of this company. i have all of these profiles. i know mary and bob are overweight. do i want to keep them? cheryl: there is a third-party company that will keep the records separate. eventually, this is segregation.